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Many people ask me how a preacher or priest in Christianity
can ever go to Islam, especially considering all the negative things that we
hear about Islam and Muslims everyday. I would like to thank everyone for their
interest and offer my humble story, God Willing.
Actually, a very nice Christian gentleman asked me through
email why and how I left Christianity for Islam. So this is more or less a copy
of the letter that I sent back to him.
My name is Yusuf Estes and I am the National Muslim
Chaplain for American Muslims, sponsored by a number of organizations here in
Washington, DC. As such, I travel around the entire world lecturing and sharing
the message of the Christ of the Quran in Islam. We hold dialogs and discussion
groups with all faiths and enjoy the opportunity to work alongside of rabbis,
ministers, preachers and priests everywhere. Most of our work is in the
institutional area, military, universities and prisons. Primarily our goal is to
educate and communicate the correct message of Islam and who the Muslims really
are. Although Islam has grown now to tie Christianity as the largest of
religions on earth, we see many of those who claim Islam as Muslims, that do not
correctly understand nor properly represent the message of "Peace, Surrender and
Obedience to God" (Arabic = 'Islam').
Dear me, I am afraid that I got a bit ahead of myself, I
was trying to give a bit of background on my own personal experience to see if
it would in anyway benefit you in your ministry. This may seem quite strange
that I would offer to help you, while we perhaps share a few different
perspectives and concepts of God, Jesus, prophethood, sin and salvation. But you
see, at one time I was in the same boat as you. Really, I was. Let me explain.
I was born into a very strong Christian family in the
Midwest. Our family and their ancestors not only built the churches and schools
across this land, but actually were the same ones who came here in the first
place. While I was still in elementary we relocated in Houston, Texas in 1949
(I'm old). We attended church regularly and I was baptized at the age of 12 in
Pasadena, Texas. As a teenager, I wanted to visit other churches to learn more
of their teachings and beliefs. The Baptists, Methodists, Episcopalians,
Charismatic movements, Nazarene, Church of Christ, Church of God, Church of God
in Christ, Full Gospel, Agape, Catholic, Presbyterian and many more. I developed
quite a thirst for the "Gospel" or as we say; "Good News." My research into
religion did not stop with Christianity. Not at all. Hinduism, Judaism,
Buddhism, Metaphysics, native American beliefs were all a part of my studies.
Just about the only one that I did not look into seriously was "Islam". Why?
Good question.
Anyway, I became very interested in different types of
music, especially Gospel and Classical. Because my whole family was religious
and musical it followed that I too would begin my studies in both areas. All
this set me for the logical position of Music Minister in many of the churches
that I became affiliated with over the years. I started teaching keyboard
instruments in 1960 and by 1963 owned my own studios in Laurel, Maryland, called
"Estes Music Studios."
Over the next 30 years my father and I worked together in
many business projects. We had entertainment programs, shows and attractions. We
opened piano and organ stores all the way from Texas and Oklahoma to Florida. I
made millions of dollars in those years, but could not find the peace of mind
that can only come through knowing the truth and finding the real plan of
salvation. I'm sure you have asked yourself the question; "Why did God create
me?" or "What is it that God wants me to do?" or "Exactly who is God, anyway?"
"Why do we believe in 'original sin?" and "Why would the sons of Adam be forced
to accept his 'sins' and then as a result be punished forever. But if you asked
anyone these questions, they would probably tell you that you have to believe
without asking, or that it is a 'mystery' and you shouldn't ask.
And then there is the concept of the 'Trinity.' If I would
ask preachers or ministers to give me some sort of an idea how 'one' could
figure out to become 'three' or how God Himself, Who can do anything He Wills to
do, cannot just forgive people's sins, but rather and had to become a man, come
down on earth, be a human, and then take on the sins of all people. Keeping in
mind that all along He is still God of the whole universe and does as He Wills
to do, both in and outside of the universe as we know it.
Then one day in 1991, I came to know that the Muslims
believed in the Bible. I was shocked. How could this be? But that's not all,
they believe in Jesus as:
* a true messenger of God;
* prophet of God;
* miracle birth without human intervention;
* he was the 'Christ' or Messiah as predicted in the Bible;
* he is with God now and most important;
* He will be coming back in the Last Days to lead the
believers against the 'Antichrist.'
This was too much for me. Especially since the evangelists
that we used to travel around with all hated Muslims and Islam very much. They
even said things that were not true to make people afraid of Islam. So, why
would I want anything to do with these people?
My father was very active in supporting church work,
especially church school programs. He became and ordained minister in the 1970s.
He and his wife (my stepmother) knew many of the TV evangelists and preachers
and even visited Oral Roberts and helped in the building of the "Prayer Tower"
in Tulsa, OK. They also were strong supporters of Jimmy Swaggart, Jim and Tammy
Fae Bakker, Jerry Fallwell, John Haggi and the biggest enemy to Islam in
America, Pat Robertson.
Dad and his wife worked together and were most active in
recording "Praise" tapes and distributing them for free to people in retirement
homes, hospitals and homes for the elderly. And then in 1991 he began doing
business with a man from Egypt and told me that he wanted me to meet him. This
idea appealed to me when I thought about the idea of having an international
flavor. You know, the pyramids, sphinx, Nile River and all that. Then my father
mentioned that this man was a 'Moslem.'
I couldn't believe my ears.
A 'Moslem?'
No way!
I reminded my dad of the various different things that we
had heard about these people, how they are -
Terrorists; hijackers; kidnappers; bombers and who knows
what else?
Not only that but:
They don't believe in God
They kiss the ground five times a day and
They worship a black box in the desert.
No!
I did not want to meet this 'Moslem' man. No way!
My father insisted that I meet him and reassured me that he
was a very nice person. So, I gave in and agreed to the meeting.
But on my terms.
I agreed to meet him on a Sunday after church so we would
be all prayed up and in good standing with the Lord. I would be carrying my
Bible under my arm as usual. I would have my big shiny cross dangling and I
would have on my cap which says: "Jesus is Lord" right across the front. My wife
and two young daughters came along and we were ready for our first encounter
with the 'Moslems.'
When I came into the shop and asked my father where the
'Moslem' was, he pointed and said: "He's right over there."
I was confused. That couldn't be the Moslem. No way.
I'm looking for a huge man with flowing robes and big
turban on his head, a beard half way down his shirt and eyebrows that go all the
way across his forehead.
This man had no beard. In fact, he didn't even have any
hair on his head at all. He was very close to bald. And he was very pleasant
with a warm welcome and handshake. This didn't make sense. I thought they are
terrorists and bombers. What is this all about?
Never mind. I'll get right to work on this guy. He needs to
be 'saved' and me and the Lord are going to do it.
So, after a quick introduction, I asked him:
"Do you believe in God?"
He said:
"Yes."
(Good!)
Then I said:
"Do you believe in Adam and Eve?"
He said:
"Yes."
I said: "What about Abraham? You believe in him and how he
tried to sacrifice his son for God?"
He said:
"Yes."
Then I asked:
"What about Moses?"
"Ten Commandments?"
"Parting the Red Sea?"
Again he said:
"Yes."
Then:
"What about the other prophets, David, Solomon and John the
Baptist?"
He said:
"Yes."
I asked:
"Do you believe in the Bible?"
Again, he said:
"Yes."
So, now it was time for the big question:
"Do you believe in Jesus? That he was the Messiah (Christ)
of God?"
Again the said:
"Yes."
Well now:
"This was going to be easier than I had thought."
He was just about ready to be baptized only he didn't know
it.
And I was just the one to do it, too.
I was winning souls to the Lord day after day and this
would be a big achievement for me, to catch one of these 'Moslems' and 'convert'
him to Christianity.
I asked him if he liked tea and he said he did. So off we
went to a little shop in the mall to sit and talk about my favorite subject:
Beliefs.
While we sat in that little coffee shop for hours talking
(I did most of the talking) I came to know that he was very nice, quiet and even
a bit shy. He listened attentively to every word that I had to say and did not
interrupt even one time. I liked this man's way and thought that he had definite
potential to become a good Christian.
Little did I know the course of events about to unravel in
front of my eyes.
First of all, I agreed with my father that we should do
business with this man and even encouraged the idea of him traveling along with
me on my business trips across the northern part of Texas. Day after day we
would ride together and discuss various issues pertaining to different beliefs
that people have. And along the way, I could of course interject some of my
favorite radio programs of worship and praise to help bring the message to this
poor individual. We talked about the concept of God; the meaning of life; the
purpose of creation; the prophets and their mission and how God reveals His Will
to mankind. We also shared a lot of personal experiences and ideas as well.
One day I came to know that my friend Mohamed was going to
move out of the home he have been sharing with a friend of his and was going to
be living in the mosque for a time. I went to my dad and asked him if we could
invite Mohamed to come out to our big home in the country and stay there with
us. After all, he could share some of the work and some expenses and he would be
right there when we were ready to go to out traveling around. My father agreed
and Mohamed moved in.
Of course I still would find time to visit my fellow
preachers and evangelists around the state of Texas. One of them lived on the
Texas -- Mexico border and another lived near lived Oklahoma border. One
preacher liked to a huge wooden cross that was bigger than a car. He would carry
it over his shoulder and drag the bottom on the ground and go down the road or
freeway hauling these two beams formed in the shape of a cross. People would
stop their cars and come over to him and ask him what was going on and he would
give them pamphlets and booklets on Christianity.
One day my friend with the cross had a heart attack and had
to go to the Veterans Hospital where he stayed for quite a long while. I used to
visit him in the hospital several times a week and I would take Mohamed with me
with the hopes that we could all share together in the subject of beliefs and
religions. My friend was not very impressed and it was obvious that he did not
want to know anything about Islam. Then one day a man who was sharing the room
with my friend came rolling into the room in his wheelchair. I went to him and
asked him his name and he said that it didn't matter and when I asked him where
he was from he said he was from the planet Jupiter. I thought about what he said
and then began to wonder if I was in the cardiac ward or the mental ward.
I knew the man was lonely and depressed and needed someone
in his life. So, I began to 'witness' to him about the Lord. I read to him out
of the book of Jonah in the Old Testament. I shared the story of the prophet
Jonah who had been sent by the Lord to call his people to the correct way. Jonah
had left his people and escaped by boat to leave his city and head out to sea. A
storm came up and the ship almost capsized and the people on board threw Jonah
over the side of the ship. A whale came up to the surface and grabbed Jonah,
swallowed him and then went down to the bottom of the sea, where he stayed for 3
days and 3 nights. Yet because of God's Mercy, He caused the whale to rise to
the surface and then spit Jonah out to return back home safely to his city of
Nineveh. And the idea was that we can't really run away from our problems
because we always know what we have done. And what is more, God also always
knows what we have done.
After sharing this story with the man in the wheel chair,
he looked up and me and apologized. He told me he was sorry for his rude
behavior and that he had experienced some real serious problems recently. Then
he said that he wanted to confess something to me. And I said that I was not a
Catholic priest and I don't handle confessions. He replied back to me that he
knew that. In fact, he said: "I am a Catholic priest."
I was shocked. Here I had been trying to preach
Christianity to a priest. What in the world was happening here?
The priest began to share his story of being a missionary
for the church for over 12 years to south and Central America and Mexico and
even in New York's 'Hell's Kitchen.' When he was released from the hospital he
needed a place to go to recover and rather than let him go to stay with a
Catholic family, I told my dad that we should invite him to come out and live
with us in the country along with our families and Mohamed. It was agreed by all
that he would so, he moved out right away.
During the trip out to our home, I talked with the priest
about some of the concepts of beliefs in Islam and to my surprise he agreed and
then shared even more about this with me. I was shocked when he told me that
Catholic priests actually study Islam and some even carry doctors degrees in
this subject. This was all very enlightening to me. But there was still a lot
more to come.
After settling in, we all began to gather around the
kitchen table after dinner every night to discuss religion. My father would
bring his King James Version of the Bible, I would bring out my Revised Standard
Version of the Bible, my wife had another version of the Bible (maybe something
like Jimmy Swaggart's 'Good News For Modern Man." The priest of course, had the
Catholic Bible which has 7 more books in it that the Protestant Bible. So we
spent more time talking about which Bible was the right one or the most correct
one, than we did trying to convince Mohamed about becoming a Christian.
At one point I recall asking him about the Quran and how
many versions of it there were in the last 1,400 years. He told me that there
was only ONE QURAN. And that it had never been changed. Yet he let me know that
the Quran had been memorized by hundreds of thousands of people, in it's
entirety and were scattered about the earth in many different countries. Over
the centuries since the Quran was revealed millions have memorized it completely
and have taught it to others who have memorized it completely, from cover to
cover, letter perfect without mistakes.
This did not seem possible to me. After all, the original
languages of the Bible have all been dead languages for centuries and the
documents themselves have been lost in their originals for hundreds and
thousands of years. So, how could it be that something like this could be so
easy to preserve and to recite from cover to cover.
Anyway, one day the priest asked the Mohamed if he might
accompany him to the mosque to see what it was like there. They came back
talking about their experience there and we could not wait to ask the priest
what it was like and what all types of ceremonies they performed. He said they
didn't really 'do' anything. They just came and prayed and left. I said: "They
left? Without any speeches or singing?" He said that was right.
A few more days went by and the Catholic priest asked
Mohamed if he might join him again for a trip to the mosque which they did. But
this time it was different. They did not come back for a very long time. It
became dark and we worried that something might have happened to them. Finally
they arrived and when they came in the door I immediately recognized Mohamed,
but who was this alongside of him? Someone wearing a white robe and a white cap.
Hold on a minute! It was the priest. I said to him: "Pete? -- Did you become a
'Moslem?'
He said that he had entered into Islam that very day. THE
PRIEST BECAME A MUSLIM!! What next? (You'll see).
So, I went upstairs to think things over a bit and began to
talk to my wife about the whole subject. She then told me that she too was going
to enter into Islam, because she knew it was the truth. I was really shocked
now. I went downstairs and woke up Mohamed and asked him to come outside with me
for a discussion. We walked and talked that whole night through. By the time he
was ready to pray Fajr (the morning prayer of the Muslims) I knew that the truth
had come at last and now it was up to me to do my part. I went out back behind
my father's house and found an old piece of plywood lying under an overhang and
right there I put my head down on the ground facing the direction that the
Muslims pray five times a day.
Now then in that position, with my body stretched out on
the plywood and my head on the ground, I asked: "O God. If you are there, guide
me, guide me." And then after a while I raised up my head and I noticed
something. No, I didn't see birds or angels coming out of the sky nor did I hear
voices or music, nor did I see bright lights and flashes. What I did notice was
a change inside of me. I was aware now more than ever before that it was time
for me to stop lying and cheating and doing sneaky business deals. It was time
that I really work at being an honest and upright man. I knew now what I had to
do. So I went upstairs and took a shower with the distinct idea that I was
'washing' away the sinful old person that I had become over the years. And I was
now coming into a new, fresh life. A life based on truth and proof.
Around 11:00 A.M. that morning, I stood before two
witnesses, one the ex-priest, formerly known as Father Peter Jacob's, and the
other Mohamed Abel Rehman and announced my 'shahadah' (open testimony to the
Oneness of God and the prophethood of Muhammad, peace be upon him).
A few minutes later, my wife follow along and gave the same
testimony. But hers was in front of 3 witnesses (me being the third)
My father was a bit more reserved on the subject and waited
a few more months before he made his shahadah (public testimony). But he did
finally commit to Islam and began offering prayers right along with me and the
other Muslims in the local masjid (mosque).
The children were taken out of the Christian school and
placed in Muslim schools. And now ten years later, they are memorizing much of
the Quran and the teachings of Islam.
My father's wife was the last of all to acknowledge that
Jesus could not be a son of God and that he must have been a mighty prophet of
God, but not God.
Now stop and think. A whole entire household of people
from varying backgrounds and ethnic groups coming together in truth to learn how
to know and worship the Creator and Sustainer of the Universe. Think. A Catholic
priest. A minister of music and preacher. An ordained minister and builder of
Christian schools. And they all come into Islam! Only by His Mercy were we all
guided to see the real truth of Islam without any blinders on their eyes any
longer.
If I were to stop right here, I'm sure that you would have
to admit that at least, this is an amazing story, right? After all, three
religious leaders of three separate denominations all going into one very
opposite belief at the same time and then soon after the rest of the household.
But that is not all. There is more! The same year, while I
was in Grand Prairie, Texas (near Dallas) I met a Baptist seminary student from
Tennessee named Joe, who also came to Islam after reading the Holy Quran while
in BAPTIST SEMINARY COLLEGE!
There are others as well. I recall the case of the Catholic
priest in a college town who talked about the good things in Islam so much that
I was forced to ask him why he didn't enter Islam. He replied: "What? And loose
my job?" - His name is Father John and there is still hope for him yet.
More? Yes. The very next year I met a former Catholic
priest who had been a missionary for 8 years in Africa. He learned about Islam
while he was there and entered into Islam. He then changed his name to Omar and
moved to Dallas Texas.
Any more? Again, yes. Two years later, while in San
Antonio, Texas I was introduced to a former Arch Bishop of the Orthodox Church
of Russia who learned about Islam and gave up his position to enter Islam.
And since my own entrance into Islam and becoming a
chaplain to the Muslims throughout the country and around the world, I have
encountered many more individuals who were leaders, teachers and scholars in
other religions who learned about Islam and entered into it. They came from
Hindus, Jews, Catholics, Protestants, Jehovah's Witnesses, Greek and Russian
Orthodox, Coptic Christians from Egypt, non-denominational churches and even
scientists who had been atheists.
Why? Good question.
May I suggest to the seeker of truth do the following NINE
STEPS to purification of the mind:
1.) Clean their mind, their heart and their soul real good.
2.) Clear away all the prejudices and biases
3.) Read a good translation of the meaning of the Holy
Quran in a language that they can understand best.
4.) Take some time.
5.) Read and reflect.
6.) Think and pray.
7.) And keep on asking the One who created you in the first
place, to guide you to the truth.
8.) Keep this up for a few months. And be regular in it.
9.) Above all, do not let others who are poisoned in their
thinking influence you while your are in this state of "rebirth of the soul."
The rest is between you and the Almighty Lord of the
Universe. If you truly love Him, then He already Knows it and He will deal with
each of us according to our hearts.
So, now you have the introduction to the story of my coming
into Islam and becoming Muslim. There is more on the Internet about this story
and there are more pictures there as well. Please take the time to visit it and
then please take the time to email me and let us come together to share in all
truths based on proofs for understanding our origins and our purpose and goals
in this life and the Next Life.
And once again I thank you for your email today. If you
hadn't sent it, I probably would still not have completed this task of putting
down the story once and for all of how "Priest and Preachers Are Coming to
Islam."
May Allah guide you on your journey to all truth. Ameen.
And May He open your heart and your mind to the reality of this world and the
purpose of this life, ameen.
Peace to you and Guidance from Allah the One Almighty God,
Creator and Sustainer of all that exists.
Your friend,
Yusuf Estes
Chaplain Yusuf Estes
Yusuf Estes site
www.islamtomorrow.com
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